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Re: Francesco Xuereb - Born about 1839 - vpxuereb - 16-02-2019
Hello Anyone,
I hope someone
can help me find more about one of my Great
Grandfathers Francesco Xuereb in which somehow was separated/lost
for 150 years.
About a year
ago Anne Marie Xuereb contacted me
from France and she got the same Great Grandfather (Both sides of the family
knew of someone travelled to Australia and returned back to get Married. - [from
where he boarded to go to Australia and where he returned too, I dont know]).
Note:________ A Salvatore Xuereb (Could be his
father)travelled alone from Port Marseilles (Unassisted Passenger Lists 1826-1922)
on board a vessel name, El Kantara arriving at Port Sydney Australia on 25 May
1822.
After 150
years I found that he had another two brothers Andrea Laurent and Cajetan
Pascal Xuereb Plus more (about 3 Brothers and a Sister).
I give you some Names and Dated in an
endeavour of finding more about his birth, death and family etc.
My Great
Grandfathers Name is: Francesco Xuereb (b abt. 1839. [Could be in Qormi,
Malta]. Thats where his parents got married and his brothers born/Baptised
d?).
His Father: Salvatore Xuereb (b 28 Jan 1788,
Valletta, Malta - d?).
His Mother: Paola de Gabrieli (b abt 1800 - d?).
Married 7 Aug 1825 Qormi, Malta.
His Brother: Andre Laurent (b 14 May 1840 [Qormi,
Malta?] - d 18 Dec 1895 Philippeville,
Algeria).
His Brother: Cajetan Pascal (b 4 Jul 1848 Qormi,
Malta - d 16 Jul 1901 Philippeville, Algeria).
Because of Famine and Disease.
Family and
Friends packed their seeds and belonging and went to Algeria.
A short story from Anne-Marie Xuereb: In Algeria. The elders spoke little,
especially not to the children, everything was a secret.
The papers of
the boat (.........)were written in Maltese, nobody, in each port, being able
to translate them, prohibition of docking, after a few weeks, going along the
coast, Rusicade/Philippeville accepted the passengers and cargo, unfortunately,
the seeds have rotten. (You either go back or stay and start at zero again)
They decided to stay.
After several
years, this is confirmed by the progress of the profession of marriage
certificates, over time.
Further Note:
On Maltese documents, the profession is never indicated. We had to look for
something to live, elsewhere because of Malta.
At the time
there were epidemics, poor harvests and families were numerous.
Other
siblings with No DOB etc. Are: (All XUEREB)Most Likely born in Philippeville,
Algeria:
Francesca
Andrea
Antonio
Carmelo
another
Francesco. (must have died young).
His Wife:
Paola de Gabrieli (b about 1800 - d ?).
Her Father:
Francesco de Gabrieli.
Her Mother:
Gaetana nee PACE.
A Further
note: Salvatore XUEREB b 1798 was previously Married to Nicolina Bonavia (b
1798 Porto Salvo, Valletta, Malta - d?)Married 12 Jun 1818 Valletta, Malta.
It will be
nice to find some things about Francesco or, any additional information about the Family and How? or Why? The Family drifted apart or Lost all these years.
Sincerely
Yours
Vincent Xuereb
Re : Francesco Xuereb - Born about 1839 - theresagrima - 18-02-2019
Hello Vincent
I had a quick look on National Archives of Australia (NAA)site. I cannot see a Salvatore Xuereb arriving in April 1822 on El Kantara. But there is one in 1922. I have attached copy of the entry.
Theresa
Re : Francesco Xuereb - Born about 1839 - vpxuereb - 18-02-2019
Hello Theresa,
Thanks for pointing out that mistake.
Yes its the same person, but I put the wrong Century.
I'm getting mixed up with which Xuereb Family came to Australia.
My Aunty Catherine Xuereb (married Frances Bondin)told me that they were quite wealthy.
For memory she said that they had Race Horses.
One of the sons wasn't doing too good. So he wanted to return to Malta to merry a Maltese.
When I received an mail from Annie-Marie XUEREB from France. She told me, me too that someone went to Australia.
I'll find her email to me and I will forward it to you/the group.
There are 5 attachments. three are typed and two are written in Latin and French.
If anyone can help translating the Two written once. It will help me.
Kind Regards
Vincent Xuereb
Re : Francesco Xuereb - Born about 1839 - vpxuereb - 16-03-2019
Hello Anyone,
I hope someone
can help me find more about one of my Great
Grandfathers Francesco Xuereb in which somehow was separated/lost
for 150 years.
About a year
ago Anne Marie Xuereb contacted me
from France and she got the same Great Grandfather (Both sides of the family
knew of someone travelled to Australia and returned back to get Married. - [from
where he boarded to go to Australia and where he returned too, I dont know]).
Note:________ A Salvatore Xuereb (Could be his
father)travelled alone from Port Marseilles (Unassisted Passenger Lists
1826-1922)on board a vessel name, El Kantara arriving at Port Sydney Australia
on 25 May 1822.
After 150
years I found that he had another two brothers Andrea Laurent and Cajetan
Pascal Xuereb Plus more (about 3 Brothers and a Sister).
I give you some Names and Dated in an
endeavour of finding more about his birth, death and family etc.
My Great
Grandfathers Name is: Francesco Xuereb (b abt. 1839. [Could be in Qormi,
Malta]. Thats where his parents got married and his brothers born/Baptised
d?).
His Father: Salvatore Xuereb (b 28 Jan 1788,
Valletta, Malta - d?).
His Mother: Paola de Gabrieli (b abt 1800 - d?).
Married 7 Aug 1825 Qormi, Malta.
His Brother: Andre Laurent (b 14 May 1840 [Qormi,
Malta?] - d 18 Dec 1895 Philippeville,
Algeria).
His Brother: Cajetan Pascal (b 4 Jul 1848 Qormi,
Malta - d 16 Jul 1901 Philippeville, Algeria).
Because of Famine and Disease.
Family and
Friends packed their seeds and belonging and went to Algeria.
A short story from Anne-Marie Xuereb: In Algeria. The elders spoke little,
especially not to the children, everything was a secret.
The papers of
the boat (.........)were written in Maltese, nobody, in each port, being able
to translate them, prohibition of docking, after a few weeks, going along the
coast, Rusicade/Philippeville accepted the passengers and cargo, unfortunately,
the seeds have rotten. (You either go back or stay and start at zero again)
They decided to stay.
After several
years, this is confirmed by the progress of the profession of marriage
certificates, over time.
Further Note:
On Maltese documents, the profession is never indicated. We had to look for
something to live, elsewhere because of Malta.
At the time
there were epidemics, poor harvests and families were numerous.
Other
siblings with No DOB etc. Are: (All XUEREB)Most Likely born in Philippeville,
Algeria:
Francesca
Andrea
Antonio
Carmelo
another
Francesco. (must have died young).
His Wife:
Paola de Gabrieli (b about 1800 - d ?).
Her Father:
Francesco de Gabrieli.
Her Mother:
Gaetana nee PACE.
A Further
note: Salvatore XUEREB b 1798 was previously Married to Nicolina Bonavia (b
1798 Porto Salvo, Valletta, Malta - d?)Married 12 Jun 1818 Valletta, Malta.
another note on somewhere in the Royal Army/Navy Records.
It will be
nice to find some things about Francesco or, any additional information about the Family and How? or Why? The Family drifted apart or Lost all these years.
Sincerely
Yours
Vincent Xuereb
Re : Francesco Xuereb - Born about 1839 - theresagrima - 16-03-2019
Vincent
Have you tried using the Malta DNA & Genealogy Facebook group?
Theresa
Re : Francesco Xuereb - Born about 1839 - edmckie2 - 16-03-2019
I would avoid the strange Malta DNA Facebook group. It appears to permit long rambling conspiracy theory posts from a redneck in Texas which have nothing to do with Malta, DNA, or genealogy.
Cheers. ed
Re : Francesco Xuereb - Born about 1839 - sasciak - 17-03-2019
Ed,
May i ask what is the issue?
'It appears to permit long rambling conspiracy theory posts from a redneck in Texas which have nothing to do with Malta, DNA, or genealogy.'
You made the statement.
What are your facts?
Please list them.
Regards
Stephen Asciak (not from Texas:-)
Re : Francesco Xuereb - Born about 1839 - theresagrima - 17-03-2019
Really? Handed noticed.
Re : Francesco Xuereb - Born about 1839 - NSV - 17-03-2019
Hello,
We avoid here to criticize others groups.
If you think this group is not trustworthy, it's better to propose an alternative.
For DNA test, there are plenty of websites, like https://www.myheritage.com/dna/dna-test-kit
Nicolas
Moderator of Malte-Genealogie
Webmaster of geneanum.com
Re : Francesco Xuereb - Born about 1839 - edmckie2 - 17-03-2019
Nicolas,I am sorry if you consider my post transgressed the rules. However as the group in question was implicitly recommended in a post then I considered it legitimate to put a different point of view.
Regards. Ed